Trying to reenlist with 2 small problems

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bangschr
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I was in the Army Reserves around 5 years ago and was involuntarily discharged due to missing a few drills. I have been trying to reenlist for about 2 years now, but keep getting the run around from a National Guard recruiter. I was told that branch was the only chance I had at the time. I am again trying to get back in but I want active duty (which I wanted instead of Guard).

2 issues: My discharge- General (under honorable conditions).
and a DUI I received while still in.
I completed a pre-trial diversion and the case was dismissed. I have all paperwork.

Are there any chances? I am now 30 years old.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice!

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MSG Glenn
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@bangschr

Have you tried an Active Army Recruiter? He'd be the best person to tell you about your chances of going into the Active Duty Army as well as the Army Reserve. The Army National Guard uses their own Recruiters & they might not be aware of what's going on in the Regular Army or Army Reserve. The fact that you're prior service makes it a little different than being a brand new prospect.

I believe you might have a chance but I'll defer to a Recruiter. After the Presidential election the President Elect said he would build up our Military & then it might be a lot easier to enlist. Everything hinges on the needs of the Army & if that means it needs more Soldiers in a hurry those people who had no chance of enlisting now find that they can.

Good luck & keep me updated.

bangschr
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Thanks for the input MSG

Thanks for the input MSG Glen.
I just spoke to an active Army recruiter and he said the only thing holding me back is that DUI. New business rules state no moral waivers for glossary prior service, but I don't believe I fall within that category.
What's frustrating is the court paperwork I have states that my case was dismissed, I am not to be considered guilty, I cannot be barred from employment, and can even hold office. But for some reason I cannot reenlist.
I'm not going to give up. There are a few recruiters within a hundred miles of me so I will try them tomorrow.

I'll keep you posted!

MSG Glenn
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Thanks for the update

For some reason the Army seems to be able to discriminate when it comes to ANY legal matter even if it was dropped. Just because the prosecutor or judge dropped it doesn't mean that the crime wasn't committed. I've known of guys who were DQed for having committed a crime but it's in a sealed juvenile record. NOBODY is supposed to see those except for the Military. Many people don't realize that. That coupled with the fact that the Army (and the Military in general) treats many civilian crimes differently than how they treat them. There are some cases that a certain crime may be considered a misdemeanor in a civilian court while they could be felonies in the Army. I'd be interested to see what happens to those from states that have legalized marijuana & a recruit from that state wants to join the Army. Of course unless he has traces of marijuana in his urine or hair that's still detectable there is no paper or legal record of an offense. I'm sure the Army would DQ someone who uses weed & if they answered no on the questionnaire that they never used it & it was found that they indeed did use it that in itself would DQ them. Hard without that paper trail, though. I'll bet the Army will find a way, LOL.

Also bear in mind that the rule that businesses can't hold dropped cases for job applicants against hiring them is the rule for civilian work places, not the Military. I'm not sure whether that would bar someone from getting a Security or Private Detective license or joining a police department. Each state probably has a different standard. I'm a PI & have worked Armed Security & I'm pretty sure that would have prevented me from being licensed in my state.

Let me know what happens.