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Aaron.Tkill
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Hello Everyone!
California National Guard.
Going to keep the story's short. Im 29 years old now. Back In 2006 I made the dumbest mistake and got a DUI, when I was 18. In 2008 I got in a fight (he attacked me) with my roommate. He said I hit him with my handcuffs,(I was a security guard) so I got arrested. The charge assault with deadly weapon non fire arm. That charge was dropped. I've been to MEPS got a 72 on my Asvab. My packet has been sent to the review board. How long does it usually take? Sent the packet in on the 10th of July. Is a waiver still needed even though the DUI is off my record? Also should I be stressed out like I'm not going to get in? Hopefully there's been worse than my story.
Thank you for your time.

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MSG Glenn
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@ Aaron

I really could never get a good handle on the waiver system. Some very difficult ones seem to go through fast while simple ones take a long time. Yours has taken 10 days so far. The only thing I can figure is how busy the board or waiver authority is & how many waivers they have up for review. They might even have to kick it up to a higher level. I'll bet your Recruiter can't even tell you how long it could take but at least he can give you an educated guess.

Keep me updated & good luck!

Aaron.Tkill
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Hurry up and wait

The subject line says it all!
When we first sent the packet in on the 1st, they responded very quickly to want more info on the altercation I had with the roommate. I'm just hoping they truly look at me overall as a new person, yes I had problems in the past but I've learned from it and I've grown alot since then. Do you think I should send them some cookies or something to hurry up the process?

MSG Glenn
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@Aaron

LOL. I don't think cookies will help. Possibly even hinder. What if you give them the wrong ones? Or the Soldier in question has a hard time making weight? LOL.

All you can do is wait. That's the hardest part. Once in a while check with your Recruiter.

I'm curious. Did you lose your security license? I was licensed as armed security in the state of WI & still hold a PI license which I might let expire. Probably not.
Even though I also have a concealed carry license a "professional" gun license carries a little more weight. I just shudder at the expense requalification would cost me, though. This state is very rigid when it comes to issuing security/PI licenses.

Aaron.Tkill
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Hurry up and wait-2

No didn't lose it. I even got my armed permit after that. In my letters I put in that I was armed security and I was able to carry a weapon. I carried a sig 40 Smith. Awesome weapon.
It was a messed up situation that happened. It was a friend from HS who went in the Marine corps. His wife was going to leave him cause he cheated on her and I ended up being his whipping boy. Tried to subdue him but his buddy was helping him out. They told the police I hit him so I automatically went to jail. Then got stuck in jail due to the wild fires. So they call that being detained. The review board thought it was more than that so they kicked the first packet for more info.
I have an awesome recruiter. Believe it or not, he was able to get a guy in that had a impersonating a police officer charge. So that's why I have some hope lol

Aaron.Tkill
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Saw the last post by the recruiter

So I read the last Forum. Are those terms based off only with a GED. I do have a HS diploma.
The post I read was GED with having charges, needing a moral waiver, that those won't get waivers at this time.

MSG Glenn
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Aaron...

I'm not sure know about the GED. I wonder if having a GED also requires a certain amount of college credits to qualify for enlistment is still a policy. I know there were certain exceptions at certain times in certain recruiting districts who were short of their recruitment goal.

My issue pistol was a Glock 22 .40S&W & my personal firearm was a Glock 23 which I carried while doing PI work. Gave the G 23 to my son who was going through the Police Academy before WI had a concealed carry law & when I stopped doing uniformed security work. A while later the law was passed & my son said I should get a S&W M&P, the firearm the PD is issued so I got a good deal on a police trade-in full size M&P 40 & bought a new M&P 40 Compact. The FS is for home defense & the Compact is my carry piece although in colder weather I carry the FS sometimes. I can also carry the Compact loaded with 15+1 round FS mags. I have the M&P40C on my belt right now. that goes on when I put my pants on & stays until I get ready for bed, usually 0530 or earlier until about 2200. I'm debating joining the Police Auxiliary. That would give me range privileges at the Academy (about a half mile from my home) but I would need to put in a certain amount of hours each month doing traffic control & such (unarmed). I really don't feel like doing that. It's unpaid duty. I'll just contend with paying range fees at a gun store.

Aaron.Tkill
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@MSG Glenn

That's an awesome set up that you got. I wish I would have kept my permits. I was working six months out of the year in San Bernardino, that was an crazy place! I'm glad I was armed.
I still go out with my buds that do patrol at night sometimes, in San Diego county, it's not as crazy. I just go out when Im bored lol So were you thinking like police reserves?

Aaron.Tkill
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Almost there!

So recruiter contacted me today. They forgot to put my ID and HS diploma in my packet lol. Said that's good news if they were looking for that. Not a DQ. He said he was so worried about making sure everything else was perfect and forgot those two things. Should hear something soon.

Aaron.Tkill
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Short Mos

I had my recruiter send me a list of short Mos's. From my understanding the waiver board looks at what job you pick. He sent me 11b (surprised that's on there) 92g and 88m. Does anyone have a list of short Mos's or a website I can look it up? I would assume there is more than 3.

MSG Glenn
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MOSs

It's possible that many if not most MOSs are pretty much filled up due to all the recent HS & college grads. I still would think that there's be more than that, though.

I'm also surprised 11B is open. That usually doesn't open until winter.

It seems like things are moving along smoothly for you. There shouldn't be any more problems. I hope I didn't jinx your recruitment process, LOL.

We don't have a police reserve here. Just a police auxiliary. I don't think they even get a ride along. Non-armed & they wear a a different uniform shirt & patches. Not enough there to want to make me join, LOL.

Aaron.Tkill
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Mos

The only reason why I can think he gave me those 3 is due to not being able to get a security clearance, due to a DUI. I think I'm right about that. I wanted to pick 19D CavScouts,11b is almost the same just don't get cool Cav hat lol. I really like the history the CavScouts have though. The other reason why I wanted to look at short Mos's so I can pick up rank quicker. I would really like to be a recruiter later on my career. I'm already a car salesman, so it shouldn't be any different lol.
I think you should do the auxiliary police. It's sounds like and awesome gig. I kinda miss doing security. Late nights driving around, not a lot of traffic. It was nice. The money wasn't great though lol

MSG Glenn
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@ Aaron

It also occurred to me that the local National Guard unit has only limited MOSs. I retired out of the Army as an Active Army Advisor to a Reserve Division (1 mile from my house, LOL. Someone screwed up royally.) Although I wasn't involved personally but we'd get guys coming off active duty with MOSs the division just didn't have on their table of organization. MPs come to mind. We had 2 - a LTC & a MSG. If they wanted to get in the Reserve unit they'd have to reclassify & in most cases the division certainly didn't want to pay the bill for MOS training. Those Soldiers were sent to the local National Guard Brigade to find out whether they had openings. As a general rule of thumb Reserve units are Service, Service & Support or Training & Guard units are Combat Arms. In other words if your local guard unit has no slots nor ever will for 19Ds then you won't be able to join them with that MOS.

Infantry has a little flash also. When you graduate from Infantry School you get the Blue Cord to wear around your right shoulder & when you serve a combat tour you get the Combat Infantry Badge to wear on your chest.

I pretty much gave up going into the Police Auxiliary. It really doesn't interest me very much. Maybe I'll get back into Security. I made pretty good money as a CPL & then SGT. I was qualified & trained up to CPT but never held the rank due to the size of the account where I worked & the amount of officers I had under me. Now I mostly do PI work, mostly from home doing research with an occasional surveillance job when needed due to manpower shortages. I'm working on 3 cases right now doing computer searches & phone call interviews trying to find locations of guys who skipped for some reason or another. Last year I found one just by looking in a white pages phone directory with a Dept. of Motor Vehicles check, LOL. The only thing he did was change his middle name, LOL. Nobody would accuse him of being intelligent.

Aaron.Tkill
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@MSG Glenn

Got good news from the recruiter today. Passed the suitability review board. The moral waiver will be sent up today, TAG lvl. He said that, thats great news cause the people who are on the review board are basically the same peeps. Just needs to upload a few more docs and reference letters.
Says I'm his first TAG, I feel honored lol, I popped his cherry.

MSG Glenn
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@Aaron

Great news! I can't see you being disapproved anymore.

Keep the updates coming. There are many prospective recruits that read these posts that will never post themselves. Good or bad news helps quite a few people.

Aaron.Tkill
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@MSG Glenn

I will for sure. The recruiter said will take two weeks, quicker for the Guard, cause it's state lvl.
He's been doing this longer, but I think one month is more realistic.

MSG Glenn
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I'd say...

...that by summer's end you'll be all processed & enlisted. Now that I thoroughly jinxed you...LOL.

Aaron.Tkill
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Thank goodness!

Summer in Georgia, well summer at any basic training would be worse than winter. Kinda glad the process took sometime lol.
You can make any comment, as long as you don't eat any charm candies out of the MRE's, and then make a comment! Heard those have bad JuJu's tied to it haha

MSG Glenn
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There was a time...

...when eating anything out of an MRE pack was bad luck, LOL. I had an old C Rat can when I was in the Navy Submarine Service with a packing date of 1945 (WW II!). I forget what it was but I think it was corned beef hash. Delicious! We also had some "aged" Vienna sausages in a can that were good, too. We called them "CPO Dogs" because the Chief Petty Officers (CPOs) were very fond of them & they'd go through the stacks looking for them. Of course we usually got there first so we'd store some away & when Chief would do us a favor we'd slip him a can, LOL. I got out of a few $h!t details that way, LOL,LOL.

Aaron.Tkill
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@MSG Glenn

Did it age like wine? I actually don't mind eating them. My father would always bring cases in. We would eat them when he was too tired to cook, or in a hurry to be somewhere. It was so cool when it went to the self heating pack.
Did that 1945 Rat. Have anti-german propaganda? Lol

MSG Glenn
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They actually tasted...

...just as a brand new one would. They must have known how to safely can things then & made them to last a long time.

No propaganda that I ever saw, LOL. Since this was on a submarine it would more than likely be anti-Japanese.