Scoliosis, 2nd time trying to enlist

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JeffWentz
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I tried joining the National Guard back in 2012 but was denied at the end of MEPS due to scoliosis. I guess my recruiter sent out a waiver (not sure if he did or not, he was really shady) and he stopped contacting me. Fast forward a month, I call him and he tells me it got denied.
Fast forward five more years to this week. I go see an Army* Recruiter and tell him about my previous experience. He tells me to see a DR and have a physical done and to get his OK on me enlisting.

My question for all of you is: Does anyone here have scoliosis in the military? I can tell you all day that it doesn't bother me and that I'm more than qualified to enlist, but that hardly matters.

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MSG Glenn
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@Jeff

I wish I could answer that. I can't recall anyone with scoliosis both in my Navy days & my Army days. That is - not that I know of.

Since you have a Recruiter that is willing to work with you seems to be a good sign. At least he hasn't totally dismissed you. I suggest you do as he says & hope for the best.

Does your scoliosis affect you in any way? The Military has some quirks about physical conditions. It all stems from the fact that once they enlist you you're their responsibility.

You're coming into a good time to get waivers. It's close to the time when recruiting is traditionally its slowest.

Do me & the rest of the members & guests a favor - keep us constantly updated on your recruitment process, good or bad.

Good luck!

JeffWentz
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@MSG Glenn

Thanks so much for your reply, MSG. I'm not just saying this because I want to enlist, but my scoliosis hinders me in no way. I've been to JROTC Summer Camp as well as been in MCJROTC, both of which were very physical and I had no issues with either of them. That's why this bothers me so much. I'm more than qualified aside from that one issue. I know I'd be one of the best candidates.
Right, I could see how I could be a liability. & Right, that's what I figured since they're doing "early shipping" bonuses, I think it's called. I have my Orthopaedic appointment on Wednesday to get the "OK" to enlist. I'll keep yall updated of the results. If he says I'm no good to enlist, I'll still let my recruiter know and we'll go from there.
I'll keep you updated, thanks!

JeffWentz
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@MSG Glenn, UPDATE

I had my appointment today with my Ortho(back) Dr! He said he barely noticed it so he didn't see why I couldn't join! So he'll be emailing me that letter that has his OK written on it, and my waiver should be good at this point! I have much higher hopes for my chances now.

Will keep you all updated through my enlistment process. I have an appointment with SGT Parks tomorrow morning to get all the basic stuff done like fingerprints etc. Then we'll set up a date for MEPS.

MSG Glenn
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@Jeff

That sounds like good news! Keep me updated as to what SGT Parks tells you. Are you still trying for the Army Guard? Or doesn't it matter? You could also try for the Army Reserve if you have a unit near you or even the Active Duty Army keeping in mind that the Guard has their own Recruiters while the Reserve & Active Army use their own.

I'd like to recommend MOSs but they're limited in the Reserve Components unlike the Active Duty Army which is only limited to which MOSs need Soldiers & which are filled up or have long waiting lists for the MOS schools (AIT or in the case of Combat Arms MOSs, OSUT).

As a rule of thumb - most Guard units are heavy with Combat Arms with their support personnel while Reserve units are chiefly Service, Service/Support & Training. Plenty of time to decide on an MOS after finding out which are available.

I have a bad habit of advising Airborne, Airborne Infantry, Rangers or Special Forces, LOL. I served in USN Submarine Service then Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT 21) as a Frogman & had a while in SEAL Team 2 when they were formed before I got out & as an Army Paratrooper Infantryman. My son was an Army Ranger with an Infantry MOS. So you know where my heart is, LOL. 27 years of rewarding duty. I'd do it all over again.

JeffWentz
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@MSG Glenn

I'm definitely trying for Active Army. I don't know why, but I really want to get out of here and do something with my life. I want something fulfilling and I feel like the army can provide that.
I appreciate your service, MSG! I wish I wasn't so afraid of heights or drowning, otherwise I'd probably try for SF or atleast Airborne!

sdcornell
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@Jeff

Congrats on some uplifting news! I recently had a similar issue where I had to get a Neurologist involved and I feel that if you get the specialist involved you have a better chance of being accepted.

Hope everything goes well for you!

Samantha

JeffWentz
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@Samantha

How recent, Samantha? And thank you very much!
I completely agree. I know since Trump Office is expanding the military, my waiver already had a much better chance of being approved than back when I tried in 2012, but with a Doctor's letter stating he believes I would have no trouble with the physical capabilities of the Army? That, to me, almost ensures my approval. So my hopes are high.

JeffWentz
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UPDATE!

Went to my Appt this morning with SSG Parks and got all the paperwork out of the way, even got that Doctor's note from the clinic!
I have to see if I can buy the X rays from them tomorrow morning so SSG Parks can get that waiver sent off for approval.
Also went ahead and ordered my school transcripts so he can see that I was in JROTC for two years which will net me E2 when I enlist. Oh, since I'm also a GED applicant, I get stuck in a T2 slot, BUT since I have 15+ college credits, I was pushed back into T1 which is awesome.
And for the biggest news, I take my ASVAB tomorrow morning before my next appt with SSG Parks. I'm really looking at the MOS' that ship out this month, so hopefully there's a decent one among them! I'll keep yall updated as usual!

MSG Glenn
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Good news, Jeff!

I think the Active Army is a good choice. With world conditions being what they are I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Reserve Components get called to active duty. That's pretty uprooting to one who's a civilian with a job or in school. At least when you're Active Army you really don't care one way or another except you get paid more each month overseas & in a combat assignment. My son did almost 5 years active but stayed in the Reserve after he got out. He's now an SFC E7 & an Instructor.

Do a little studying for the ASVAB. Is this the real one given at MEPS or just one that a Recruiter gives you to see what he has to work with & discourage you from trying for an MOS that requires a certain score?

Once you get your contract you'll probably be working with your Recruiter getting up to par physically. It's always good to get to BCT able to pass the APFT. Makes it much easier. I always advise that you shouldn't depend on your DS to get you up to speed. It can be pretty rough if that's the case, LOL.

Now your adventure is about to start.

JeffWentz
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@MSG Glenn

Oh yeah, I'm studying tonight for it. This is, in fact, the real one, although he's having me take it at a College nearby since I'm not actually going to be staying at MEPS for the whole ordeal until I obtain my waiver results.
I only obtained a 42 on the practice asvab, but he assures me it would be more like a 50 something or 60 something due to the practice test being a bit tougher, but i'll study to make sure I get a good score, or try to at least.
I'm also pretty used to PFT, so there won't be any issues with me in BCT. I used to hit the gym almost religiously after work every day, until I moved, that is. Now i'm getting back into it. What is a DS, MSG?

I hope it's about to start, because i'm so ready for it!

JeffWentz
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Update!

So after waiting for my X-Ray CD for two weeks, I find out that I'm 2 degrees past a certain spot on my spine. So we'll see if that Dr's Note does its job. I will keep yall updated on that waiver :)

MSG Glenn
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At least things...

...things are starting to move for you. Again- good luck!

Forgot to answer your question. I actually thought I did but as has happened before I must have gotten called away & failed to post it.

A "DS" is a Drill Sergeant.

JeffWentz
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Still waiting

Still waiting on that waiver. It’s taking a bit but they did request my old meps reclrds which SSG Parks said is a good sign since they didn’t just dismiss me right away.

MSG Glenn
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Re:Still Waiting

It'd better to have to wait then being rejected right away, LOL. If SSG Parks is happy then it certainly is a good sign, Jeff.