Request for leave

37 replies [Last post]
1.12.gold
1.12.gold's picture
Offline
Joined: 07/26/2012

I'm hoping this is the appropriate venue for inquiring about a request for vocational leave for a soldier (aka sergeant) that is currently stationed in Afghanistan.

It has come to my attention that this sergeant has submitted a request for leave from his current post there in Afghanistan to come home for a visit. It was indicated the process for this to occur is the following:

1. Soldier to submit request for leave to commanding officer
2. Commanding officer grants or denies
3. If granted, the paperwork is forwarded on to the appropriate department and/or individual
4. Transit process through the Transit Department require the completion of the transit facility form and money back guarantee form
5. Transit Department requires remittance of money to the finance department, which was remitted to Liezel Pelicano at the military base in Cambodia
6. Letter from Reginald J. Brown of the Department of the Army, Office of the Assistant Secretary ManPower and Reserve Affairs stating the soldier does not have the required amount of $10,000 on his Military Travel Card

It is unclear if this is the actual process for this soldier and seeking clarification and guidance to better assist this soldier. If there is an appropriate person that can respond and provide the guidance, it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Share this
Your rating: None Average: 2.5 (2 votes)

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
fxwg22
fxwg22's picture
Offline
Joined: 10/01/2013
Leave for fiance

I met my fiance on line.Corporal Olivia Crespo attached to UK Army from US Army for Peace Keeping in Afghanistan Regiment 16.ID#AJNE029 here's the problem.We've asked for leave to come here in U.S. But i'm supposed to send 550 pounds to address in Cardiff,U.K.To process her leave&benefits.I feel this is some kind of SCAM but do not know for sure.Can anyone help me for i know nothing of the Army and how thing's are done. and if this is a SCAM i have alot of picture's and information,name's,Major General's,address's.Please Help!! ALFRED

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
SCAM!

Soldiers don't need people to send them money for transit or to take leave. NEVER EVER believe an online soldier that requests money.

fxwg22
fxwg22's picture
Offline
Joined: 10/01/2013
Thank's Cory,Deep in my heart

Thank's Cory,Deep in my heart i did not think Major General's send out form letter's for request of leave&ask for money gram's send to the U.K.Army.Corporal Olivia Crespo never asked me&looks legit...Dressed in blues&out in field w'other soldiers in fatigue's but something just didn't add up.What a shame!!

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
Cpl. Olivia Crespo isn't Real

I'm sorry, Alfred, but you've been catfished with a fake online persona. Look here where a scammer used that persona before - http://www.justanswer.com/uk-law/7vio2-real-attention-mr-richard-jenke.html

Dottie1953
Offline
Joined: 10/18/2013
need help

I am not sure if this is fraud or not.I have met my fiance COL DAVID SPICER on US army for peace keeping in Nigeria. he has been in army for 33 years. Ask for leave to come meet me. I received a letter to send a 1,000 dollars for paper work. i did. then received a e-mail staying to send 3,800 . for all his expense and plan fairs. that once hes here would be refunded. then I receive another e-mail, would be $12,000 to take out what was already send off this amount !
So I did not send in. now they told him to take his retirement. so he applyed but still have to pay the balance that would be almost 8,000 still. I do not know what to do .I don't know if its fraud or not.Please help me
Dottie

Colin
Offline
Joined: 08/16/2010
Fraud

Sorry Dottie, but this is fraud.

Soldiers never, ever, under any circumstances, ever have to pay for paperwork for leave or retirement

You may want to check out this article on our site: http://army.com/blog/catfish/worried-about-online-scam-protect-yourself

purrrtybbw
Offline
Joined: 07/15/2015
just a quick question

I started talking to this guy online. He asked me to fill out a leave of request application. This is what he asked me to write...

15-July-2015
To whom it may concern
Good day!
May I request your good office to ask permission to allow my fiance Sgt XXXXXXXXXX from the 25th infantry division whom is currently deployed to Yemen. To take a vacation leave as I needed his presence here with me in South carol ins(United States Of America) . As I will be glad to have him with me in South carol ins(United States Of America). Hoping for your consideration on this matter.

Yours truly
XXXXX XXXXX

Then send it to usaarmyservice@usa.com

Is this legit, or is there an actual form I would need to fill out?

Thanks purrrtybbw

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
Totally bogus

Purrrtybbw,

It is time to cut off contact. This is the just before the part of con where he or some military 'official" will come back and say that there are fees of some sort that must be paid for. There is no legit reason for you to be involved at all for a soldier to get leave.

purrrtybbw
Offline
Joined: 07/15/2015
thanks

will do that now.

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Definitely...

...a scam!

Even if that was on the up & up something like that wouldn't work anyhow.

davidbrown667
Offline
Joined: 08/11/2015
Leave For Fiance

I met an US Soilder online serving at Camp Victory, Kabul Afghanastan. After communicating for a few weeks, Matron Cynthia Richard of 2nd Battalian Artillery Field asked me to send a letter to her suporior for leave of absence since her last request was denied and untill meeting me had no one to see since she is an orphan who grew up in an orphanage. Sent the letter to militarydatabaseone@outlook.com that got me suspitious(email address). received reply from General Frederick Knows
Family and Medical Leave Agency
US Army
Kabul, Afghanistan.
Said 1250 fee due to process her request and air transport and returned if filled our Money Back Guarantee of the US Army, BIG RED FLAG. I informed her that I cannot send money that I don't have, that that is NOT how the military operates. She said times have changes and they don't let anyone leave the war area without someone sponsoring them, and if I don't have the money then I don't love her and she'll probably hurt herself, that I don't want to have kids with her and she'd rather die. I then received another letter from her (Boss) to send moneygram to: Francis NCube
Pretoria
South Africa, 0002. Signed
US Army Care Unit
Kabul Afghanastan.

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
It's a scam!

You are correct in your suspicions. Go ahead and cut off contact, she isn't a real soldier.

davidbrown667
Offline
Joined: 08/11/2015
Follow up

I've stopped communicating with her, received another communique from "American Army" militarydatabaseone
Says from the desk of Major Gerneral Isaac Smith. We hereby want to know what is delaying you from making the payment for the flight for your woman. We don't wanna listen to any excuse from you making the payment because you've been sent everything about the army. In this case if nothing is done within the next 72 hours. Your woman will be jailed and punish for leaking all information about army to you.
Reguards, American Army, Kabul Afghanistan

My questions: 1, Why would a Major General write like a fifth grader? 2, resort to mob tactics? 3, Should I and if so, how to forward to Inspector Gerneral of the Army and/or FBI IC3?

Colin
Offline
Joined: 08/16/2010
Scammy Scam Scam Scam

The reason for the bad writing and the resorting to (empty) threats is because English is their second (or third, or fourth, etc.) language, and they are desperate to get money from you.

It's definitely a scam, by the way. It would be great if you could check out our scam article right here, and send any information you have to both the Internet Crime Complaint Center and the Federal Trade Commission. You can find links in the last paragraph of the above article.

ANN2015
Offline
Joined: 10/26/2015
VACTIONAL LEAVE COURSE

I hope someone can help me with my question.
I have meet 1 SGT THOMAS MICHAEL SIEGEL Tag#SY0900585 via Facebook who is presently assigned to Northern Atlantic Treaty organization in Aleppo,Syria.

He ask me to send a request for a VOCATIONAL LEAVE COURSE to his GENERAL JOSEPH DUNFORD JR.
Officers with an active duty on deployment cannot be granted leave until the completion of 3 days vocational course in France before going home.
I was ask to paid a fee of 400 euro and would like know if this scam or not.
He promise me he will pay for my trip to Florida to see him between Nov 7-13
NEED ANSWER ASAP.

Colin
Offline
Joined: 08/16/2010
Scammy Scam!

Sorry to let you know, but this is definitely, 100%, a scam. Soldiers never, ever have to pay money in order to take leave.

You can read more about this kind of scam here: http://army.com/blog/topical/dont-give-money-soldiers-email-you but this is definitely a scam.

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Scam after scam after...

...scam!! There isn't a day that passes where I don't get at least one scam e mail. Mostly from the middle east. I can't wait until they find out what I did/do for a living, what my politics are & what my religion is, lol.

Supermom
Offline
Joined: 12/17/2015
Request for Leave

I met someone whose in the Army and stationed in Afghanistan thru Facebook. The conversation was good until I told him that it would be nice to meet with him in person. He soon told me that I can put a request to leave and to send out an email using a Yahoo account send by him. Which I found really funny. I'm hoping and wishing this is not a Scam.. I would like to know if he's responsible to put in a request for leave. Help me understand. Thank you

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
Scam

Sorry, Supermom, but that's a scam.

prettyinpink
Offline
Joined: 05/12/2016
Request for Leave

hope someone can help me with my question.
I have meet a soldier at US army via Facebook who is presently deployed in Iraq.. he said that he has only 5 months till his deployment over.. We talked on line sometimes, he said that he has no family.. so I felt sorry for him , he wanted a serious relationship with me, despite the distance..I was so suprised... I m in France and he is now in Iraq. I do believe that all pics are real.. as well as the comments left or pics with his buddies there.. after a week, he told me that they will send him somewhere else, and there is only one way by prevent it, by him applying a request for leave, and asked me to send 1500$ to the department of leave and transit for the military for middle eastern region, he just keep asking me to help and pay for something called, flight military package?? I wil have to do that for him to see me, that I will have to pick him up from airport, he will stay with me for a week then go back to US.. and then back to finish his tour for 5months.. Im sooo CONFUSED?? is he telling the truth??? since he wanted meet up with me and to pick him up from airport?? is it a BIG SCAM lol. PLZ somebody helps me, Thanks soooooooooo much!!!
somethming else I would like to know, is it true that a soldier can be send to other place during his deployment in Afghanistan? ThankYou for Your input!!

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
SCAM!

Sorry, prettyinpink, but this is a scam. This is not a real US Army soldier in need of funds to get out of deployment. What he has told you is completely untrue. If you had given him the money you would have then received emails from some Army department stating that they hadn't received the funds, maybe tell you that if you pay $x more, they can expedite the request, etc. But at no time will you ever meet this "soldier". Something will go wrong with the paperwork or he'll tell you he's coming and then apologize after saying he went straight home or some other feeble excuse. Cut off all contact now.

prettyinpink
Offline
Joined: 05/12/2016
I could not believe

I could not believe it!!!Thank You soooo much for Your advice and Help!!!!! I will cut off the contact !!

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Your initial instincts...

...were right. If it's on the web & it smells fishy then it more than likely is.

prettyinpink
Offline
Joined: 05/12/2016
Thanks Cory!!

It`s me again, I have not replied to any of his messages, he keeps saying that his commander accepted his request for emergenvy left permit, all he needs just the money to be at the department of leave and transit for the military. and he will be here this week. I admire , respect all women and men in uniform., I WISH I could undrestand why a brave sergeant would do such a thing,,, I don t think he deserve to be called sergeant after all. lol
How I warn the Facebook ppl from such a scam? I m curious too, I woud like to know if it s true that he lost his wife, daughter in a crash and his mother from cancer,? I Don t wanna ask his army friends, they will probably cover up his mess.. can you give any suggestions how I will figure out if that`s true ?, I would like to face him with the truth? Thanks so much.

Cory
Offline
Joined: 07/13/2010
All fake

Prettyinpink, it is all a fake story. The pics may be real. But they are stolen from a real soldier and are not of the person you are talking to. His buddies aren't his fellow soldiers, those are his other scam friends or himself using other fake accounts as to add legitimacy to the interaction seen on FB. This isn't a fallen soldier, just a con man sitting behind a keyboard.

Just move on, don't try to reform him.

prettyinpink
Offline
Joined: 05/12/2016
I appreciate Your advice!!

Thanks Cory again for Your reply!!! I hope he is just a con man!! otherwise what a shame!! and it will hurt to let him go with it.

dalejrfangirl
Offline
Joined: 11/18/2016
i met a guy onine .in the

i met a guy onine .in the army and he wants to visit me for the holidays...ut im not sure its on the up an up...he wants me to email...armyinquries.com i think and request his leave ...what do u think

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
@dalejrfangirl

I signed off about 10 minutes before you posted this yesterday, LOL.

To get to the question - I would never trust any relationship to someone you met online. Maybe it's all above board but then again maybe it's not. I wouldn't invite a complete stranger into my house for a short while let alone for the holidays. He is indeed a complete stranger because you have no way to know if what he's telling you online is true. You have no way of knowing if he's actually in the Army. There's a whole bunch who claim to be Soldiers but never wore a uniform nor do they ever intend to. I've never heard of armyinquiries.com. Maybe they're legit & then again maybe not. Use your intuition - if you don't think he's on the up & up then you must smell a hint of fishiness. Be polite but I'd tell him that meeting him over the Holidays would be impossible due to family visits or whatever. DO NOT give him your home address. I wouldn't even give him your home or cell phone number.

Be very, very careful about internet friends unless you've actually met them in person & known friends can vouch for them. For instance - I could say I was a young Sailor instead of an old Soldier. I even have photos proving it. Actually, I WAS a young Navy Sailor before I joined the Army, LOL.

These days there's a lot of crap going on, especially if a young lady is involved.

Good luck & have a great Thanksgiving!

dalejrfangirl
Offline
Joined: 11/18/2016
thank you MSG glenn... i

thank you MSG glenn... i didnt give him my number or adress atleast...im glad i trusted my gut...thanks for advice...its sad theres such scammers out there

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Just for kicks...

...enter his name in a Google search. You'd be surprised what it might turn up. I work part time in my retirement doing Private Detective work & although I have access to sophisticated (and expensive) search sites every once in a while a standard search site will bring up some info that can lead to a more thorough search including criminal records. It might be fun.

Sweetpeach57
Offline
Joined: 01/07/2017
Military

Hello, I really think that I am being scam. I met this man online on Zopia, he has on a uniform and saying that he is a four star General and under the government. And he can't leave without due authorization. We have been talking for three weeks now. He is asking me to go on us_military.leavepermit@usa.com and he wants me to tell them I am his fiancée so that he can leave from Syria. I think that I am being scam, he says it cost no more than $1000 for the form. If he is a General, should he be able to get this done his self. He says he is retiring and he only has three more months in the military. Everything he tells me sounds so real, but I am so confused. He says he can't call me because the terrorist will know where him and his team is.

Should I cut all ties with him? He says he is divorced and has a seven-teen year old daughter that is in the military cadet. He says his name is Malcolm Frost

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Scam, scam ...

...scam,scam,scam,scam.

A 4 Star General is almost equal to God. There aren't very many of them in the Army. They are highly paid - $179,700 a year. He doesn't really need any permission to do almost anything. If he wants to leave an operational area for almost any reason he can do it & more than likely use a Military aircraft to get to where he wants to go. He'll have his own driver, pilot & bodyguards that will be on hand at all times. 4 Star Generals & more than likely 1,2 & 3 Star Gens can have business almost anywhere & certainly back to the States where they'll have portions of their command. ESPECIALLY a 4 Star. A 4 Star will have many Divisions under him & he'll be going to wherever they happen to be & they'll certainly be scattered all over the world. The Pentagon would rather have him far from a combat area where there could be a chance of him being captured. He has tons of highly sensitive & Top Secret information.

A 4 Star Gen has only the Army Chief of Staff (also a 4 Star), the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for all of the Military (also a 4 Star), the Secretary of Defense & the President over him.

Convinced?

I entered his name in a Google search & found there IS a GEN Malcom Frost but I'd eat my hat if that's him. I didn't do any reading of the hits, something you could do if you have any spare time.

Stop any communications with him immediately! I'd be very suspicious if this was only a Private.

Knute@
Offline
Joined: 02/03/2017
Vacation Leave Permit Aoolicaton

I have met a Sergeant in the US Army named Cole Patrick. We met on Facebook. He is station in Afghanistan on a Rescue Mission and wants to put in for Vacation Leave, He gave me a name of person who handles the leaves and has requested that I send a Western Union Money Gram for $1,500.00, which would be fully refunded to me when his Vacation Leave is granted, The person he wants me to send the Money Gram to is Carolyn Buckner, 1533 Red Oak Court, North Carolina 27573. He said she is one of the Vacation Leave Agents, but will not give me a phone number. Do you have to pay to be granted a vacation leave. He said he wants to be with me and marry me even though I am already married to an abusive husband. He wants to take me away from my abusive husband and live with him Florida. I have no ID number for him. I just have pictures. We have been talking since before Halloween of 2016. Is this the proper procedure for a vacation leave, I am very concerned, but he texts and calls me all the time and we talk on Hangout. I have his phone number of 480-400-4270. Please help me. Thank You, Knute@

Knute@
Offline
Joined: 02/03/2017
Vacation Leave Permit Aoolicaton

I have met a Sergeant in the US Army named Cole Patrick. We met on Facebook. He is station in Afghanistan on a Rescue Mission and wants to put in for Vacation Leave, He gave me a name of person who handles the leaves and has requested that I send a Western Union Money Gram for $1,500.00, which would be fully refunded to me when his Vacation Leave is granted, The person he wants me to send the Money Gram to is Carolyn Buckner, 1533 Red Oak Court, North Carolina 27573. He said she is one of the Vacation Leave Agents, but will not give me a phone number. Do you have to pay to be granted a vacation leave. He said he wants to be with me and marry me even though I am already married to an abusive husband. He wants to take me away from my abusive husband and live with him Florida. I have no ID number for him. I just have pictures. We have been talking since before Halloween of 2016. Is this the proper procedure for a vacation leave, I am very concerned, but he texts and calls me all the time and we talk on Hangout. I have his phone number of 480-400-4270. Please help me. Thank You, Knute@

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
@Knute

SCAM!!! For one thing there is no "Vacation Leave". It's just a leave & every member of the US Military is granted 30 days of leave a year. Their pay continues while they're away. If a Soldier needs money to go on leave he can usually get a loan from the Army deducted from his paycheck monthly. This scam goes back to the Roman Legion days if not longer.

NEVER send money to anyone who you only know via the internet. He gave you the address of a Caroline Buckner. Why doesn't he ask her to find someone she knows to lend him the money? A friend or relative is the 1st place to look for a loan.

I work as a Private Detective in my retirement. I'll see what I can find out about "Caroline Buckner". I have some other work on a people finder site so as soon as I finish that I'll give it a try. I'll probably send her a nasty gram if I find her. While I'm at it I'll try to find a "Cole Patrick" starting at Facebook.

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
This is what I found...

...in a quick search. I couldn't use the high-power search engine because that's a pay as you go site that my Detective Agency uses but I received some info.

Cole Patrick - No address in or near NC. No military affiliation given. Very little details.

This next one is more logical. It's common for someone to switch their first & last names especially if they want to remain somewhat anonymous.

Patrick Cole also known as "Patrick Colie". Fremont, NC. As I recall Fremont is close to Rutherford, NC. No age given. No address given. No indication of any Military affiliation past or present. I checked Facebook & found several with the same name. I'm sure if I hit the right name on FB it wouldn't be credible, anyhow. I trust no info on FB or anywhere else on the internet that was submitted by the person in question. On another White Pages search there are a lot of Patrick Cole hits in NC, none for Cole Patrick.

Caroline Renee Buckford. Age 27. Rutherford, NC. Used to live in Wilmington, NC.
Another hit on Caroline Renee Buckner age 27 living in Dallas, TX, Winston Salem, NC. No hits for Red Oak Creek, NC but the zip code came up as Rutherford, NC.

Sometime when I'n using the "professional" search site I'll see if I can sneak these names in the search. To do them alone would cost the agency money. Most of those search engines we use are for criminal records, City, County, State & Federal.

Still seems like a scam to me like they all are.

MSG Glenn
Offline
Joined: 08/31/2010
Research

I'm through doing any as of now. The last half dozen times I took the trouble to do any was of no use. The OPs never responded to it. I'm perfectly willing to do it for people, it's how I make my living but it seems useless to spin my wheels for nothing.