Rank upon enlistmen

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Mitch rapp
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I am scheduled for MEPS in early January, 2017. I have enough college units to enlist as an E3. I will not have my college transcripts before my MEPS date. It will take 6 weeks from the University. The recruiter said as long as I get my transcripts before the basic training date, I will be promoted prior to basic training. Has anyone had this experience ? My fear is once I sign my contract no one's going to care if I have college units or not and I will not enlist as an E3. That will be a two week window between MEPS and Basic training.

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MSG Glenn
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@ Mitch

Wow. That's a hard call. The only thing I can think of is to make it very clear to the MEPS Counselor that you'll need that info in your contract. The other thought I have is to tell the Counselor that you'll need to come back after you get your transcript. That might set your enlistment back a bit but it would be worth it. Depending on what MOS you've chosen you might not lose any time at all.

Have you checked with the University if there's any way you can get a transcript any earlier? Even an "unofficial" one like a letter attesting to the fact that you have X amount of credits with the thought in mind that once the official transcript comes it'll be entered in your service record. If it proves that you really don't have the necessary credits then you'll lose that rank.

Run everything by your Recruiter. Maybe he has some better suggestions.

Now it's time for me to editorialize - Some time after I had been in the Army I found that I needed a transcript to show some of the subjects I had credits in. This had to do with adding an additional MOS to my record which would have (and did) help me with my next promotion to SFC E7. It took less than a week for them to arrive. Of course those were the days when colleges weren't anti-Military as a rule. They even welcomed ROTC, LOL.

A little story - my first Military experience was in the Navy Submarine Service. I signed up the same time as another guy who was going in as an E4 due to his Amateur Radio license. He of course was going in as a Radioman. We went to Boot Camp together & then Submarine School. We weren't assigned to the same Sub but at the same base (Key West) so I kept in touch with him often. When I made E4 he was still an E4 & eventually I made E5 before he did. He had the advantage of getting paid as an E4 all the while, though, where I had to go through the ranks starting at E1. Unless the Army changed their promotion standards it's time in grade AND time in service that dictates when you sew on the next stripes. Of course anything can be waived. I was a recipient of a waiver when I went from SFC to MSG. I had the time in service (my Navy time helped there) but needed a waiver for time in grade. I was E7 for about a year & a half. I was promoted immediately. Got lucky there as my competitors for the stripes were found very wanting by the promotion board. I aced the promotion points with my experience & schools in both the Navy & the Army plus with lots of civilian & Military education. Many of the Navy & Army schools I attended also came with a badge which gives promotion points also.

Let me know what happens. I'd definitely wait (if you have to) before signing any enlistment contract until it includes E4 in writing.

Good luck!

By the way - do you have any relatives in Milwaukee? We have some Rapps in our church.

Mitch rapp
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MSG, I want to thank you for

MSG, I want to thank you for your quick response. I called the University and have been told my request for units have been processed. They additionally said the transcripts are normally send the same day as they are processed. At this point I am hoping I received the transcripts prior to my first appointment at MEPS.

Mitch Rapp is a screen name I use. He is the main character in the series of books by the author Vince Flynn. Mitch is a bad ass CIA operative solving problems no one else can. In the same arena as Jack Reacher (Lee Child), but a lot more technical. A great series for soldiers who like to read.

I will keep this forum updated with my journey in case it may be of some assistance to others.

Again thank you Master Sergeant for your time and advice so that others may succeed.

P.S. originally from Cincinnati, now Los Angeles .

MSG Glenn
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Mitch

I would guess you don't have any relatives in Milwaukee, LOL.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but was busy getting ready for Christmas but mostly I wanted to do some last minute research on a guy I'm looking for (I work as a Private Detective when I feel like working at all, LOL.) I developed some good leads that some of our guys can follow up on. We'll have a little meeting tomorrow at the Agency. I feel good about this one. This old Soldier can still dig like a dog digging for his bone, LOL. If it weren't for a benevolent boss who believes in providing some really good search programs (expensive, too) that I'm authorized to load on my computer as well as the privilege of being able to go on Local, State & Federal sites I wouldn't be able to do it. My days of going on surveillance jobs & tailing someone all over the state are over thankfully but I'll do it just to keep my hand in.

Hope you had a nice Christmas. Ours was great with my whole family coming here to eat after Church. That's pretty easy as my 2 daughters & their 1 son each live with us, LOL. My former Army Ranger son & his wife were able to make it. He's a local Police Officer & didn't have to be at work until 1600. This week he continues testing for the Tactical Enforcement Unit (what we call SWAT). It's a good fit for a Ranger & so far he's #1 in many of the tests. He'll have a total of 5 phases plus the interview. They're not told how many TEU slots are open so he's working on the assumption that there's only one.