Rangers

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MisterMark93
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If i'm not mistaken. Just because you go to Ranger school and complete the course and get your tab it doesn't make you an actual ranger. You are qualified to be in the Ranger battalion but your only a ranger if your in the battalion and if i'm correct there is I believe only one battalion currently; I know there was 3 during WW2, and that's extremely difficult to get into. This goes the same with airbourne and air assault am i correct? You can complete airbourne and air assault training but it doesn't mean you'll go to an Air Assault or Airbourne regiment. In other words your not Airbourne, Air-Assault, or a Ranger unless in the batallion, your ranger, airbourne, and air-assault qualified.

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colinr01 (not verified)
You are absolutely correct.

You are absolutely correct. Completing Ranger School and earning your tab does not make you a Ranger it simply means you are Ranger qualified. There is actually 4 Battalions these days: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and RSTB. The same is also true of Airborne and Air Assault; just because you attend these courses does not mean you are going to the 82nd or the 101st.

MisterMark93
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4 really knew there were

4 really knew there were atleast 3 but dang? That's crazy. Oh well thanks man I know not that many people know this information but yeah thanks. Also I know your not able to get any of these in your contract at MEPS except for Airbourne, am I correct?

MSG Glenn
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RE:Ranger

In order to get into the 75th Ranger Regiment you have to first get an Option 40 contract. You would go to BCT, AIT/OSUT, Airborne School & then Ranger Assessment & Selection Program, RASP, an 8 week course designed to weed out all who aren't Ranger material & can't hack it. Having successfully completed that you'd be assigned to one of the four Ranger Battalions, 1st, 2nd, 3rd Batt Support Batt. Possibly even be assigned to Regiment. (I believe there were 5 Ranger Batts during WW II). Sometime in your first year in Batt you'll be sent to a pre-Ranger course & then to Ranger School to get your Tab. While in the Ranger Batt you won't get put into any positions of authority until you get that Tab or even be promoted above the rank of SPC.(Some in soft-skill, support MOSs can, though).

For those who don't get the Option 40 contract they can apply to go to Ranger School. After completing that they get sent back to their original unit, the one thart sent them NOT to the 75th. Any male Soldier can go to Ranger School, a 92 day kick in the nuts, with a priority on those in Combat Arms MOSs & a sub-priority on Infantry.

There are those who go into the Army with an Airborne contract, Option 4. That is no guarantee that they'll be assigned to an Airborne unit but your chances are good depending on the needs of the Army for Paratroopers. There are no first time enlistment contracts for Air Assault School.

Those who are Rangers in the 75th don't consider those who are in the Big Army with a Tab as Rangers who live the Ranger life every day of their enlistment although they still respect those who only have a Tab. They know how hard Ranger School is. It's a whole different ballgame not being in a Batt. Many of those who are in the 82nd Airborne Division or the 173rd Airborne Brigade will go to Ranger School. Officers & NCOs are expected to go so they can return to their unit & pass on what they learned in RS.

MisterMark93
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Becoming a RANGER wansn't

Becoming a RANGER wansn't something that I was planning but now that you say i'm able to get it in a contract w/option 40. What is neccesary to get this option? I realize really nice ASVAB score but what else? Also the Future Soldier Program/Delayed Entry Program, am I able to do this also and then go option 40 at MEPS.

MSG Glenn
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Option 40 / Future Soldier

When you choose your MOS & your contract is written at MEPS you have to tell them you want an Option 40 Ranger contract. It probably won't happen because RASP is filled through fiscal year 2011. Those contracts are very hard to get. Sometimes, although very rarely Ranger recruiters will go to various AIT locations looking for volunteers for RASP to fill a class. They usually start at Ft. Benning Infantry School unless they need a particular MOS in the 75th.

To have a chance of completing RASP you pretty much have to be a world-class athlete. Many fail on the first day when they take the PT test & a bunch more either fail or drop out all throughout the 8 weeks. I normally don't recommend a normal, physically fit young man to try for an Option 40 unless they can get a 300 score on the APFT. That's about the score needed to be allowed to continue. That boils down to a perfect score in the 2 mile run, sit-ups & push-ups. Then you're also required to pass the Combat Swimming Test. RASP Instructors will try to wash you out or make you quit. Their main job is to test your character. There are no "I can't" or quitters in the 75th. They don't give a crap if the whole class fails.

You can't have any waivers for enlistment & get into an Option 40. A good ASVAB score, be completely physically fit & a totally clear police record are the requirements.

The Future Soldier Training Program is designed for those in Delayed Entry. A contract is required & you must be sworn in to be authorized to get on the website, Army Knowledge Online, where the online course is located. Sometimes Recruiters will allow interested enlistment candidates to participate in PT. That's totally up to them, though.

s2them (not verified)
im interested in ranger

im interested in ranger school but my contract is in aviation if i dont like this is there a chance that i can eventually go to ranger schoool?

MSG Glenn
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Ranger School - Revisited

ANY male Soldier can apply to go to Ranger School. Ranger School is not an enlistment option. After Ranger School you go back to the unit that sent you, NOT to the 75th Rangers.

An Option 40 contract IS an enlistment option, however. That's for enlisting to go into the 75th Ranger Regiment. I'm not sure that there are any aviation MOSs in the Regiment. I don't think so as the 75th uses the 160th SOAR for their aviation assets. You'd have to see a list of MOSs that are in the 75th. I know there are no Armor MOSs there. Not sure about the rest.