Promotion points chart

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Bpeebles82
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How does one interpret this? I don't know what the abbreviations stand for or why there are so many figures for one MOS. Thanks for clarifying!

PROMOTION QUALIFICATION SCORES FOR PROMOTION DURING APRIL 2012
CUT-OFF SCORES ELIGIBLES ON LIST PROMOTIONS (EST)
MOS PZ SZ PZ SZ PZ SZ PZ SZ PZ SZ PZ SZ
09L+ 39 40 14 15 1 2 0 1 1 2 0 1
11B 384 386 473 473 437 208 660 455 215 105 77 47
11C 453 474 404 404 135 22 25 27 26 4 11 3
12B 372 372 475 476 102 47 150 76 40

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MSG Glenn
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RE: Promotion Points

PZ = Primary Zone, SZ = Secondary Zone. Each MOS has a cutoff score for each paygrade starting at E-5 & working up.

Many things you do in the Army will earn promotion points - time in grade, time in service, military & civilian education, awards, badges, decorations, etc. Those in the secondary zone may be able to be fast-tracked by not requiring as many promotion points. Exceptional Soldiers can fall under this category. MOSs that need fewer Soldiers will require more promotion points than MOSs that have NCO shortages.

When you see your Recruiter ask him to show you the most recent chart & explain it to you. It's never too early to keep those points in mind. Exceptional Soldiers will be able to advance through the secondary zone even though they don't have enough points for the primary zone. The amount of points you need for the higher NCO grades are generally more than what an E-5 requires. Some points count for every promotion, some are a one-time count. I think I told you about chasing down my Navy ribbons & badges. The proof that I qualified for those badges was lost by a fire at the records depository. I had the original certificates so the Army accepted them. It wasn't only ego & pride that made me do that. I gained 70 points right off the bat. Being a Combat SEAL encouraged me not to enter the Army with a bare chest, lol. Keep copies of every record you get while in the Military.

Bpeebles82
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@MSG Glenn

Thanks as usual for the info. I actually was not aware of the fact you were a SEAL. Before making my mind up with the Army, I had looked at SWCC. But saw the requirements and it's pretty stout for an old man like me!

On a side note, since I'll be 68W is there anything specific I need to do to be attached to a Ranger unit? I'm aware I'll have to go through the same training but is that something I bring up to my superiors after AIT?

MSG Glenn
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It's probably too late.

It's almost a necessity to get an Option 40 contract to be in the 75th Rangers these days. Only if the 75th needs a a particular MOS or the Ranger Assessment & Selection class has open slots. They prefer a full class because there's a lot of attrition there, usually in the first couple of days a more throughout the course. That only gives you the opportunity to be assessed & selected to be a Ranger. The rest is up to the recruit. The 75th definitely uses 68Ws. Your contract would read "68W/Option 40". Now it's entirely possible to be chosen for Ranger training at BCT or AIT. If you had an Airborne Option 4 contract it's also possible that Ranger Recruiters will come to Airborne School looking for volunteers since Airborne qualification is required. 68W AIT might be your best chance if the Ranger Regt. needs Medics. You'd be sent to Airborne School & then RASP.

Ranger recruiters will select the best Soldiers at BCT/AIT/OSUT with the recommendation of the Drill Sgt. You must be near the top of your class & have a minimum APFT score of 270, a GT score of 110 or better.

Many of my friends & relatives have asked me why I chose the Army rather than go back in the Navy as a SEAL. Since I was out for 14 years & was 38 years old I told them to get real, lol. I was in good shape but not SEAL shape. I was even too old for Ranger School & no waivers for age were being accepted. I was able to get to Air Assault School overage with a waiver, mainly because even though I was Airborne Infantry I could see an NCO needing to have Air Assault knowledge & I made my case that the next wars would see fewer mass Airborne drops than coming down on a fast rope from helicopters.

Bpeebles82
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At the time there were no

At the time there were no other contracts being offered. It was either 68W or MP. Both bare bones. No option 40 no airborne. I'll probably just inquire about it once I get to my first duty station. My PT numbers are getting a lot better since I've been going to the recruiting station during the week for morning PT. I'm usually finishing in the top 4/5 (out of 16-20) if we do runs. I also had the best 1-1-1 numbers of the group when they initially asked us to come in after MEPS. I just need a little competition so I don't take it easy, that's all!

MSG Glenn
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Keep hoping for...

..an Option 40 or Option 4 while you're at BCT or AIT. I'd say you probably have a better chance getting to Airborne School although they usually start at Infantry School, Ft. Benning but that's probably because it's just across post from Airborne School & Infantry usually has a priority. I did that a few times when I was instructing at Airborne School for a while & I don't really know if there was any rhyme or reason to it other than there were empty slots in the class. I never gave it much thought. Just ordered to "fill the class". Of course that would be a few classes later, not the one that had already started. I don't think it's a coincidence that Infantry graduation is the same day that Airborne School students check in. Busses take the new Infantryment across post right after graduation.

How do you do in the 2-2-2? That's what counts. I'm sort of against the 1-1-1 because my method of training starts at the full 2 mile distance & reps at 2 minutes & works up to the run time & amount of reps. I think you'll agree that 1 mile of running or 1 minute of pushups & situps is a lot easier than double the amount. I've had guys I was helping prepare for their ship date that had to walk part of the 2 mile where they ran the first mile really fast. When I was finished with them they did just fine but they did a full 2 miles right from the start.

Bpeebles82
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I absolutely want to be

I absolutely want to be airborne if nothing else. They gave us all 1-1-1's after MEPS to see where we are. We'll be doing 2-2-2's from now on. The first 2-2-2 I did was about 44 pushups, 40 situps, and 17:25 2 mile (didn't walk any portion of it..lol)

I tested my run last week and I did the 2 mile around 15:30-15:45. My pushups are somewhere between 50-55. Same with situps. I thought I was good to go with pushups because I was doing 60 or so "civilian" pushups. I found out fast that many of them didn't count. So far I've lost about 22 pounds since I started at 234 in March.