Moral Waiver processing for 13 months

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Pitbull2o08
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Good Evening,

I have worked on my application for close to a year for a direct accession position. I had to submit a moral waiver for something that happened when I was 18 (now 27). DCC and BOLC were to be completed this winter and I was to report in January. I was boarded in November, and everything looked great until my healthcare recruiter told me there was a problem with my waiver. I spoke with the director of the program who also said I will not be able to make it to both DCC and BOLC and if the waiver is not completed by June, will not be able to start school and could take as long as 13 months. Whereas, prior to November, it was not an issue.

My question is, Why would one waiver need several months for a decision? Is that common? Is it a bad sign? I was told that it would not be an issue and they were 98% sure it would be granted. However, I would really like to do BOLC and DCC first before starting school.

In addition, I was told all 19 of us who are civilians, commissioning, will not be able to attend DCC or BOLC. Is this because we are all being scrolled together, and I am holding up the scrolling process?

Thank you for your time and input.

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MSG Glenn
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@Pitbull2o08

I doubt if it's you who is holding up the whole class. I'm just guessing but I think it would be more due to availability of instructors or classroom availability. It could also be that the Army doesn't have a shortage of health care Officers at this time.

The subject of waivers comes up often. Some seemingly complicated issues come fast while other "easy" waivers can take forever. I haven't been able to put my finger on it but it could be something as simple as laying on someone's desk for quite awhile & when reviewed it gets kicked upstairs to the next higher waivering authority where it sits on THAT desk... etc., etc. There seems to be no rhyme or reason. At this time of year many in the Army are on leave & that in itself might be gumming up the works.

Officer accessions are looked at a lot more closely than an enlisted one & those can take quite awhile. Not knowing too much about Health Care in the Military I know that there are some enlisted MOSs that will automatically DQ someone from getting in with that MOS if there are ANY waivers regardless what they're for.

To sum it up a long wait for a waiver isn't necessarily a bad sign.

Good luck & keep us informed. Maybe the coming New Year will be a good one for you.

Pitbull2o08
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Thank you very much for your

Thank you very much for your response. I will continue to keep a positive attitude and update here as needed.

MSG Glenn
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Thanks, Pitbull2o08

A positive attitude is always good.

Pitbull2o08
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I wanted to Clarify. My

I wanted to Clarify. My waiver is going to the secretary of the army and could take up to 9 months. Not sure if the circumstances are different because of that or if it's still up in the air.

Also, If i am commissioned to start school in June, and I do not attend BOLC, am i still eligible for promotions throughout school?

Thanks again.

MSG Glenn
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I Really Don't Know

Sorry but that's something I've never come across. First off will you receive your commission before starting BOLC? I'm not aware of the process for direct acquisition Officers. I know about OCS & ROTC & a little about WOCS. I know that a Soldier going through OCS is at pay grade E5. I think that a civilian going to WOCS is the same. I can assume that if you're commissioned as a 2LT before BOLC your date of rank & time in grade will be in effect. Something else I'm not sure about is how much time in grade a 2LT needs to get promoted to 1LT. Either 1 year or 2 years. TIG & TIS for all ranks has changed several times for both enlisted & officer ranks.

I'll make assumptions - You'll be commissioned directly upon getting sworn in. Then you'll go to school to learn how to be an Officer. Your TIG & TIS will be in effect starting immediately. If BOLC is longer that the TIS & TIG you'll be promoted.

The only directly commissioned Officer I knew was while I was assigned as an Active Duty Advisor to a Reserve Division. He was former USAF enlisted & head of a personnel department at a large corporation & was directly commissioned as a CPT. I knew of 2 that were directly commissioned as Warrant Officers due to their civilian skills at that same Reserve Division. Since then I've heard that the Army doesn't do that anymore but maybe that's changed by now. If they all had to go through schools after that I have no knowledge.

Maybe your Recruiter can give you some recent info. The Army is good at giving promotions when they're due at the lower enlisted & officer ranks. After getting past the first several pay grades then a promotion board is convened at the proper time. As an enlisted NCO my boards were "paper" boards for E6 (I had gone in as SGT E5). My appearance was not necessary until & went up for SFC E7 which I had to be present. I surprisingly didn't have to appear for the MSG E8 board. It was an emergency to get an E8 to fill a critical slot & didn't even know I was being considered until I was notified that I was a MSG. What I heard later is the board had a list of names being considered but the board didn't like any of them so my name was added. I had to appear for the 1SG E8 board, though.