Moral Waiver Possibility

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watsonjr16
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So I've got a question about moral waivers. I've been getting a lot of different responses from different people and sources. I have a felony on my record from when I was 23 (I'm 28 now). It was non-violent, no drugs, abuse (sexual or physical). I completed probation for the offense and paid off all restitution owed. I have stayed completely on the right side of the law since then, not even a traffic ticket. Gainfully employed in the loss prevention field. I have decided I would like enlist in the National Guard in South Carolina. Is there any chance in my circumstance of getting a waiver or is this simply unheard of? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Colin
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Enlisting with a felony

The conflicting responses are because it's almost impossible to see the Army's logic sometimes!

In general, felonies used to mean that you'd be unable to enlist. About 10 years ago, though, there was a brief period that allowed certain felons to enlist, since the need for recruits was very high.

There is a chance that similar circumstances will happen in the near future, but, that's not a sure thing. In general, if you're going in with a need for a felony waiver, go to the recruiter between November and January. This time of year recruiters are swamped with clean high school and college graduates and are generally unable (or unwilling) to put in lots of time with someone who may need special waivers.

MSG Glenn
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@Watsonjr16

What you should do is contact a National Guard Recruiter right away. The Guard uses their own Recruiters separate from the Active Duty Army & Army Reserve. A lot depends on the needs of the local Guard units. If the need is great waivers are sometimes approved. Although the USANG follows most of the same guidelines as the Regular Army & USAR there are times that they'll differ in policies.

If the only jobs that your local Guard unit has slots available require a security clearance you might run into a no-go situation but that's for a Recruiter to tell you.

Good luck!

watsonjr16
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Thank ya'll for the

Thank ya'll for the responses! I went ahead and spoke to the local recruiter and she is going to present my case to command. She was more optimistic than I expected, so wish me luck!

MSG Glenn
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Sounds Good!

Remain optimistic. If your Recruiter thinks you have a chance then she's probably right.

Good luck!

grimm88
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moral waiver considered?

hi guys,im really wanting to joing the army. its been a dream,more like a descendant duty of mine( military family), however im going to put it out on the table. im defiantly a unique case here. i had a felony b&e when i was 15. i lived in colorado in bailey(small town in the mountains)and me and my best friend at the time thought it would be a good idea(being bored as usual) to break into an abandoned house in the back 40 and see what was inside. well we found wine and 10 year old beer and had a party at his house. lol got busted. and thats that, we did restitution,and probation.actually the owner of the house became good friends with my family. anyhow i was on probation for that and got a harrasment charge in school. so it voided my probation and i ended up doing 0-2 commitment to juvinile detention. well i did 2 and a half and they kept lying to me about my release so i got depressed and tried to off myself,was also on( alot of meds). they sent me alone to a hospital 4 hours away with no staff. the dr said i was fine bur due to the fact i was 18 they could not keep me and noone was present. i called the facillity for 7 hours straight,as well as my case worker. long story short i had to sign myself out. then i was hit with the escape from custody. but since i had served my time. they didnt hold me just offed me a plea of takeing the charge for escape. so thats how i was railroaded at a young age. mom and dad were goinf through divorce and were not help. sorry for the long story,but now im 28 i have a 4 yr old daughter,and am engauged to a woman ive been with for 8 yrs. this all happened over 10 years ago. i have been a plumber for about 10 years on and off and have been servicing the community and was just wondering if i should even consider following my dream to serve my country or does anyone think id be automatically disqualified? any insight would be helpfull. i also havent been in any trouble since then.thanks
p.s. sorry for any typos its late and ive been reading all of the fourms for insight.

Colin
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Enlisting with a felony

Felonies (no matter what the specific charge) are generally (though not always) disqualifying. Additionally, a history of certain medication usage (like prescription antidepressants) can also be disqualifying.

However, if you can get a doctor to sign off on you not needing the medication anymore, that can be eliminated.

There's also the chance that you'll be able to get a waiver for the criminal charges (though that might be more difficult). It certainly sounds like a confluence of bad choices and bad circumstances, and that may work in your favor. It's looking like the military may be growing a lot here soon, and one way they do that is by lowering the requirements.

Get to a recruiter, tell them everything, and see what they say. The worst thing they can say is "no", and they may actually have a way for you enlist. Please let us know what they say, too, since it helps us help others!