moral waiver even considered?

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grimm88
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hi guys,im really wanting to joing the army. its been a dream,more like a descendant duty of mine( military family), however im going to put it out on the table. im defiantly a unique case here. i had a felony b&e when i was 15. i lived in colorado in bailey(small town in the mountains)and me and my best friend at the time thought it would be a good idea(being bored as usual) to break into an abandoned house in the back 40 and see what was inside. well we found wine and 10 year old beer and had a party at his house. lol got busted. and thats that, we did restitution,and probation.actually the owner of the house became good friends with my family. anyhow i was on probation for that and got a harrasment charge in school. so it voided my probation and i ended up doing 0-2 commitment to juvinile detention. well i did 2 and a half and they kept lying to me about my release so i got depressed and tried to off myself,was also on( alot of meds). they sent me alone to a hospital 4 hours away with no staff. the dr said i was fine bur due to the fact i was 18 they could not keep me and noone was present. i called the facillity for 7 hours straight,as well as my case worker. long story short i had to sign myself out. then i was hit with the escape from custody. but since i had served my time. they didnt hold me just offed me a plea of takeing the charge for escape. so thats how i was railroaded at a young age. mom and dad were goinf through divorce and were not help. sorry for the long story,but now im 28 i have a 4 yr old daughter,and am engauged to a woman ive been with for 8 yrs. this all happened over 10 years ago. i have been a plumber for about 10 years on and off and have been servicing the community and was just wondering if i should even consider following my dream to serve my country or does anyone think id be automatically disqualified? any insight would be helpfull. i also havent been in any trouble since then.thanks
p.s. sorry for any typos its late and ive been reading all of the fourms for insight.

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MSG Glenn
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@grimm88

I can suggest that you contact a Recruiter about your situation. Things are easing up since the November election with the US Military upsizing & a threat of war with North Korea but personally I feel that you have too much baggage. I could be way wrong because I have no knowledge of the Army's waiver system. At times it appears there is no rhyme or reason & it appears that policy changes more often than some guys change their socks. I can further suggest that you wait until after Thanksgiving to enlist. Army Recruiting is at its slowest from then until about mid January & waivers are traditionally easier to have approved. That doesn't mean that you can't at least contact your closest Recruiting Station as soon as possible. Your Recruiter will have a good idea what possibilities might come up. He can start the process at least or put you on a list where you'll start the process at a slow time.

You've been a good citizen since then & kept your nose clean so anything can happen but like I said - you have a lot of baggage. Ironically the suicide attempt might be the major setback to your enlistment. There are many times when recruits will attempt suicide while in basic training but in my experience it's mostly a pretty weak attempt. Just another way of getting a discharge.

Your record will most likely limit your MOS choices. Mostly because even if you can enlist you'll have trouble getting a security clearance.

Be very honest with your Recruiter. Any omissions in your record is an automatic disqualifier. BUT - if there is no written record then it didn't happen. In your case I'm sure there is a record so be careful.

Good luck & let me know what a Recruiter tells you. I'd like to know even if it's bad news.

grimm88
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feeling hopefull

thanks,i will be sure to relay my process. as to the suicide attempt it wasnt recorded,and i was young and felt like there was nothing left in my life.i know now thats a sucker way out and never plan on even considering that thought.i was learning kempo and gung fu when i was 12 up untill then and i just wasnt grounded at the moment. i know its some baggage,but i feel like if everyone got made an example out of thier mistakes then noone would be in the armed service.also i know there was a time when di's would kick you in the ribs. lol cant do that now with the fragility of society. i was raised old school and am the last of a dying breed when it comes to respect,honor,and taking responsibility for my actions. so i hope all goes well. i am going to the recruiter tommorrow and will see where it goes. hopefully my past wont haunt me 14 years later. thanks again for the help. i will let you know

MSG Glenn
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Good Luck

I sure would appreciate an update on your status. Thanks in advance.

I am/was a martial artist for years - Kenpo (with an "N", LOL). Goju Ryu & Judo plus I coached wrestling. I was a Kenpo & Judo Sensei & taught self defense classes for women & the elderly. I miss those days. Now I occasionally teach concealed carry classes & use a .40 cal for self defense, LOL.

grimm88
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lol

yea man you gotta nowadays, im heading out in a few hours ill keep the thread posted.