Medical Waiver chances?

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nickbottoms
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So I went to MEPS scored good on my asvab (83) and wanted to go for combat engineer. All was going well as was filling out some paperwork and it asked if I had taken any prescriptions in the past 48 hours. I ( now regreting) said I had taken Naproxen a muscle de-inflammatory pill. I was prescribed this about a year ago for a neck/shoulder injury. The doctor I Had when I was getting my physical done asked me about it. He asked (mumbling severely ,estimated 75-80 years of age ) how was this medicine delivered. I said I wasn't sure how to say it but described it and told him why I took it because I thought he asked what it was. He then proceeded to tell me to pretty much shut up and answer his questions with one word answers not allowing me to explain anything. So I proceed on after he tells the CMO to take a look at me after the underwear Olympics and pretty much tells me I have to have my personal civilian doctor write me off as healthy. I then told him my shoulder is just fine and I can do pushups and everything with no pain, he then told me he doesn't need my shit and that I should not argue with him ( exact wording very unprofessional )and let me bring up this second doctor looked to be about 70-75 and had a heavy German accent and had problems putting an English sentence together.
So let me ask what are the chances of my shoulder which doesn't bother me at all keeping me of doing my dream and following in my dad's footsteps

Few key points
1- happened in bicycle accident
2- Doctor put words in my mouth, wrote down chronic shoulder pain when I told him it hurt for only two months
3- Took the pill to ease a sore neck from sleeping on it wrong
4- Doctor started talking about my joint which has nothing to do at all with my muscle, what I was prescribed the MUSCLE de-flammatory for
5- If denied how can I appeal this
6- NG liaisons there said it most waivers get approved is this true
7- If I can do 100+ pushups in 2 minutes why are they even caring about my shoulder

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ArmyElmore
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Dude i completely feel for

Dude i completely feel for you. I dont know the answer to your question but i am also waiting on a waiver (going on two months now) for a condition that i didnt even know i had, but at the same time does not effect me at all. It is the stupidest thing in the world. and the wait is gonna suck, ill tell you that.

rabocock80
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Thank you I hope your waiver

Thank you I hope your waiver gets passed dude. I wanted to enlist since my freshmen year of high school I have waited this long I guess I can wait a little bit longer.

rabocock80
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Thank you I hope your waiver

Thank you I hope your waiver gets passed dude. I wanted to enlist since my freshmen year of high school I have waited this long I guess I can wait a little bit longer.

rabocock80
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medical waiver

So I go up to m.e.p.s and i knew i had bad back acne but i didn't think that i wouldn't be accepted because of it so they tell me i have to go get a med waiver for it so they have to send out a waiver to see if a guy will come down and look at it. I have been waiting a whole month now. So i don't know if i am going to be able to get in the army or not or if the waiver process is just taking a long time. So i went to a navy recruiter to see if i would need a med waiver but he said i would only need my normal doctor to sign off on it. Any advice on what to do?

MSG Glenn
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@ rabocock80

The Navy uses the same MEPS as the Army & therefore the same docs.

There is no hard & set rule on the time it takes for waivers. Some "difficult" cases have been handled in a very short time & some easy ones have taken ages. When they get around to it I guess.

I have a feeling that you'll get a waiver. You might have to get a clearance from your personal doc, though. At least you know that you have the Navy to fall back on if the Army rejects you.

I don't know how bad the Navy has it but I know the forced drawdown of troop levels in the Army makes it harder to enlist.

rabocock80
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Thanks for the advice

Thanks MSG Glenn. That's comforting to know I have a back up option.

MSG Glenn
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Keep us updated...

...regardless what the outcome is.

Stay in touch with a Recruiter. Make him work for his pay. It's a good idea to ask all questions you might have for him at this time. It won't be long when they'll be very busy with HS & college grads. Even if you have to wait until about next Thanksgiving to sometime after Christmas 2015 when Recruiting is slower it might be worth it.

rabocock80
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Will do

Yeah I will definitely be asking him a lot of questions and I if have to wait I won't mind as long as I get in.

rabocock80
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Waiver time

They said they just sent out the waiver and my doctor gave them a note saying my acne (medical condition that could keep me out of the military) would not inhibit me from any physical activity. My recruiter says it will most likely get passed so I have very high hopes for this now!

MSG Glenn
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re: Waiver Time

That's good news! I hope the waiver goes through fast.

Now is a good time to get yourself in good physical shape while you're waiting. If you can pass the APFT with a decent score for your age group you won't have any problems in BCT. "Blessed is the recruit that feels the morning PT is the highlight of his day", lol.

rabocock80
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Sit ups uhhh

I think the only thing that's hard is sit ups everything else is not I do run cross country in high school so I have the running part down and I can do 80 push ups in a minute. Thanks for the advice though and nice quote.

MSG Glenn
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Sit ups, etc...

...were my strong point, lol. I wrestled in high school so pushups, sit ups - anything upper body related was easy for me. Running is a whole different story, though. In training for UDT we'd run 5 miles one way, swim 5 miles back so I got used to it real fast. The runs were on sand & barefoot most of the time. Another quote from UDT training - "the only easy day was yesterday". They were right.

I should add - once you enlist & you're waiting to ship to BCT you'll be in the Future Soldier Training Program. You'll be given the opportunity to participate in an online class. This gives you a head start for BCT learning the phonetic alphabet, rank structure, 24 hour time, etc. Upon completion you'll be awarded the rank of PV2, E2 - one stripe & a little extra pay each month. You'll also be able to do PT with your Recruiter along with the rest of the recruits. Depending on weather, availability of a Recruiter & time of year that usually happens on Saturdays. With daylight savings time nearing & spring(?) not too far away (except in WI, LOL)it's possible you might do some PT after work/school during the week. By the way - if you get a friend to sign up before you leave you'll get promoted once again. Go in as a PFC, E3 that way.

One more quote - "You don't gotta like it, you just gotta do it." UDT 21/ SEA Team 2 leadership.

rabocock80
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med waiver

My recruiter said to me be ready to join the army late march or early April and he didn't say that my med waiver got accepted yet because he says he doesn't know yet. So I am still waiting on it do you think the note from my doctor that says that I can do physical activity without any implications will help a lot in the decision for my waiver passing?

MSG Glenn
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Sounds promising, Rabocock

Good time to get some PT in. That word from your Doc should help a lot.

What MOS did you settle on? That can change at MEPS, though, depending on availability of your first choice & how long you're willing to wait for the one you want. If you've decided on an MOS get a 2nd or even 3rd choice that you'd be willing to serve in. If you're set on just one then be prepared to wait until there's an opening. This SHOULD be a good time. The kids haven't graduated from HS & college yet.

One more quote -

"If the only way you can reach your objective is by parachute find a different way". Attributed to Navy UDT/SEAL leadership. I became a Paratrooper when I was in the Army, lol.

rabocock80
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my mos

My mos that I picked was small arms and artillery repair man but that's when I went up to M.E.P.S and when I encountered my med waiver problem my recruiter said I would have to pick a new mos maybe when I went back up there to pick it after I got accepted when the waiver passed. I mean I want to do that jobs because it had airborne training with it and he says he can probably get that job back for me maybe but if he can't I will be open minded to other ones.(ex: infantry or just plain artillery man).

MSG Glenn
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MOS Selection

That sounds like a cool job. I wish I knew more about gunsmithing. I'm a 2nd Amendment backer, teach concealed carry classes & carry a firearm legally every day. I hope there's an opening in that MOS for you.

If you can't get that MOS & still want Airborne just insist on an Option 4 contract. It shouldn't be hard to get this time of year especially with an Infantry contract. If Airborne is your main goal just ask for an MOS that's open & has Option 4 available. Many times specialty MOSs like I'd guess 45B have a small population in the Army & therefore small classes as opposed to Infantry which has the biggest population & classes that go on year long one after the other & several at the same time. My main MOS was Infantry & I was Airborne. I had a short time in Public Affairs (photo degree helped there) & Communications (ham radio advanced class license helped there) but those were just slots I filled for advancement/experience purposes & was Infantry most of the time.

I'm sure your main goal is to get in the Army regardless which MOS you wind up with but it's always nice to get the contract you want & at times it's worth the wait to get exactly what you want.

rabocock80
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waiver disappproved

my waiver was disapproved so is it possible to try out for the navy?

rabocock80
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if i can join the navy

when i go up to the recruiting office should ask for a navy seals contract at the beginning?

MSG Glenn
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Navy SEALS

There's a good chance that if you're waiver is disapproved for the Army it'll be the same for the Navy especially the SEALs. If the Navy works anything like the Army you won't be able to go into an Special Operations jobs if a waiver is required for you to enlist. By all means try the Navy. I don't know a thing about their recruiting policies & if you want the SEALs tell the Navy Recruiter that's what you want.

If you're accepted by the Navy & if you get a SEAL contract be ready for some really hard work. I took the course those many years ago & it was extremely difficult. It was called UDTR then & now its called BUD/S. I started off in Underwater Demolition Teams & went to SEAL Team when they were formed. Same training for both. You can get dropped at any time regardless how far you're into the training up to the last day. You'll have most of the type of training that Army Special Forces has plus combat diving. Airborne training is automatic. Hell Week is exactly what it says. PT is a real bear each & every day.

If the Navy won't let you try for the SEALs then ask about Special Warfare boat crew training. I don't know if the waiver restrictions would apply to them like they would for the SEALs. Another SpecWar type job in the Navy is Explosive Ordnance Disposal. It's hard & I believe Airborne & diving training is available if not a requirement.

Good luck!