Marijuana experimentation

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m2
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I have tried (experimented) marijuana three times. Not a user, no charges or such. Just a typical teen in past.
How old is "too old" for that to be okay on Questionaire if I am seeking an Option 40 ?
Would even that require a Moral Waiver for enlistment? If yes, does that need for a MW kill my hopes of an Optn 40?

Sure hope someone here as good intel on this question...

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MSG Glenn
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@ m2

As far as the Army is concerned if there is no record of marijuana use then it didn't happen. You'll be asked on a questionnaire if you were ever a user & if you're caught lying you'll be permanently disqualified from military service. Just hope there is no trace of it in your body. You'll be drug tested & if you pee hot you're DQed. First your Recruiter will test you then you'll be tested at MEPS. The MEPS test is more sensitive.

If you need any waivers for any reason to enlist you won't be able to get a Ranger, SF or Airborne contract.

m2
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ummm

I am not a "user" per say. It's been years since i tried it. But I did use it those 3 times. So "those instances" are not technically USING as I understand you?
If I have even tried it once you are saying THAT would get me denied enlistment without a Moral Waiver... which then kills any hope of Option 40 ??

Colin
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I think...

I think what MSG Glenn is (very delicately) trying to say is that if there is no record (police, school, or otherwise) of you being caught with marijuana, then as far as the Army knows, you've never used.

If you do test positive after having said that you never used, then that will deny you any hope of future enlistment. However, getting a Moral Waiver (for use of which there is no record) will prevent you from a Special Forces or Ranger MOS.

m2
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Well it's been years;

Well it's been years; certainly not peeing "hot" at MEPs.
No record, charges, possesion etc. Just a few tokes at 15-16.
So wisdom says... just skip it on Questionairre because it could actually require a Moral Waiver??

MSG Glenn
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That's totally...

...up to you, m2. I would never advise anyone to lie on the questionnaire nor would I advise you to dump a Spec Ops career in the crapper because of a one-time lack in judgement years ago.

I'll say it again - if there's no record of it happening then it never happened.

Bo-Mize
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Weed Questions

I got busted for Weed in high school when i was 16.. Would that count ?

Colin
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Depends...

Depends on who busted you - if it was a police officer, school official, or someone who would have made a record of it, then you should mention it. If you deny it and there is a paper trail, then you'll be DQ'd from serving in any branch.

lwood002
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HELLLPPPPPP

i am wanting to join the army but i got caught with marijuana a while back i took classes and payed the court and everything is dropped and its off my record and i can pass a drug test.will i still be able to join the military because of that?

MSG Glenn
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@ lwood002

It might be possible. You'll still have to tell the Recruiter about your charge. He'll be able to find it because nothing is completely dropped from your record. If you don't tell him & he finds out you'll be automatically disqualified.

I don't know if the Army will grant you a waiver if one is necessary. A Recruiter will have all of the latest policies regarding that.

EmilynS.
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New bill was introduced by

New bill was introduced by group of 18 lawmakers, such as Barney Frank (D-Mass.) and Ron Paul (R-Texas), released a bill on July 17 that is designed to provide a legal defense for users of lawful medical cannabis, in the event of prosecution created by the dichotomy between federal and state laws.

MSG Glenn
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Cannabis

At this time if you fail a drug test (including cannabis) you will be disqualified from enlisting in the Army & probably the other branches, too. If you require the use of medical marijuana chances are the medical reason for the use of it will be a disqualifying factor anyhow. There are many reasons that a person is not allowed to enlist, none of which can be won with legal proceedings. Being overweight is one of them as is excessive alcohol use.