Intrested in enlisting

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Anonymous

Hi, I am a junior in highschool (17 years old) and was wondering about some of the basics on enlistment and if there was anything I can do this summer while still in school. I am in decent shape, working on incresing fitness in preperation for the APFT. I am farely new to military details, all I know is that this is what I want to do. I have been intrested for a very long time and now that I am of age to start getting involved I am extremely excited to learn. Any help would be great, thanks.

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MSG Glenn
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You're on the right track. Keep up the PT. Meanwhile get your H.S. diploma & keep your nose clean. Stay away from drugs (immediate DQ), alcohol & those who use them. Don't get into any trouble with the law including excessive traffic violations. The Army is very particular who they let in. I don't see enlistment standards changing much in the next 1 1/2 years as long as the civilian job market is so crappy.

You can actually start the enlistment process before you graduate. You'll be allowed to stay in the Delayed Entry Program for up to a year. I suggest that you study for the ASVAB before seeing a Recruiter. He'll give you a practice test to see where you're at. You final score on the ASVAB given at MEPS will determine which MOSs you qualify for.

If you haven't decided which MOS you'd like you can do some research meanwhile & choose several. It's possible that the MOS you want won't be available at the time you go to MEPS. Always have a back-up plan or wait until it becomes available.

If you have any questions this is the time to ask them.

gto_insane (not verified)
questions

Ok, from what i have been reading it sounds like before anything happens I have to take some classes for the MOS that I choose? Also, are there other groups besides the list you gave earlier? (airborne rangers sappers special forces divers) Is it true that the lower scores for the ASVAB are the ones more likely to be front lines and in the action?

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MOS Choice

Here's the sequence of events that will happen once you ship - 1st you'll go to Reception. you'll be there about a week. That's where you'll receive your uniform issue, shots, haircut, your personnel record & medical record is started, & you'll receive some basic military training. Then your Drill Sgt will march you to the basic training area & you'll begin Basic Combat Training or BCT. That takes 10 weeks. After that you'll be sent to your MOS school called Advanced Individual Training or AIT. That time varies according to the MOS. If you go into one of the Combat Arms MOSs, Infantry, Artillery, Armor, BCT & AIT is combined in one course called One Station Unit Training or OSUT. There are several other MOSs that use that training system, too. If you have an Airborne Option 4 contract you'll go to Airborne School soon atger AIT/OSUT. It's a 3 week course. If you have a Ranger Option 40 contract you'll go to Airborne School & then to Ranger Assesment & Selection or RASP which is 8 weeks long. After completion of your training you'll be assigned to a unit. If you've gone to Airborne School it'll probably be to an Airborne unit. If you have a Ranger contract & completed Airborne School & RASP you'll be sent to one of the Ranger battalions of the 75th Ranger Regiment or to Regiment itself depending on your MOS.

"Front lines" are not well defined like they were in WW II & Korea. This is a war on terrorism & they can be anywhere. As a Soldier you'll be likely to do patrolling, gate guard, convoys, etc. This is true if your MOS doesn't have much for you to do on deployments. Your ASVAB score only determines which MOSs you qualify for. There are many college graduates with high ASVAB scores that opted to go into the Infantry in "harms way" & they're right next to the guy who scored just high enough to get that MOS & into the Army. SF & Rangers are both in the Special Operations Command, SOCOM. Sappers & Divers are in the Engineering group of MOSs. A high ASVAB score is needed to qualify for all of those jobs. They're highly selective & the training is geared to wash out most of the classes to insure they only get the best. My son was an Army Airborne Ranger & he lost most of his RASP class (called "RIP" when he went through) & then again when he was in the 3rd Ranger Batt & was sent to Ranger School after he was there for about a year. Many either dropped out or failed the courses. It's definitely a weeding out process & tough as hell all the way through.

To get into Special Forces an 18X enlistment contract is required. At this time I believe that you can no longer get an 18X contract. Now they only need those who are already in the Army, have served with distinction & are NCOs. Every once in a while they open up to new enlistees. It all depends on the needs of SF. To get into the Special Operations Command it's best to hold the Infantry MOS although the 75th Ranger Regt has non-Infantry support MOSs as well.

gto_insane (not verified)
Armor and Artillary

I noticed you mentioned the BCT is needed to be in one of the special AIT groups, is that a required course period or is it something that is optional? I was thinking maybe do that, go a year or two building up my reputation then try for a higher position. Is that how it works ? Or shall I go for what I can in the beggining?

MSG Glenn
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MOSs

You MUST choose an MOS when enlisting. If you want Armor or Artillery you have to have that in your contract. When you ship you HAVE to go to BCT followed by AIT. You will not ship to BCT without an MOS already chosen. Everybody joining the Army goes through BCT & AIT. There's no getting around that. BCT teaches you how to be a Soldier. AIT teaches you what you need to know to function in your MOS. Both are REQUIRED. All AITs are for a given amount of time. Some are fairly short & some are very long depending on the MOS. If you went into Armor, Artillery or Infantry your BCT & AIT are combined into one course called OSUT.

You enlist for a given period of time. The shortest enlistment is 2 years plus your BCT & AIT time. Promotions will come at predetermined intervals, some being almost automatic through E-4.

This might be a good time to talk to a Recruiter because normally this is their slow period. He can answer all of your questions.

MSG Glenn
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To Continue...

... what I said above - after AIT if you have any special options on you enlistment contract like Airborne or Rangers you'll be sent to the appropriate school.

Diver is an actual MOS so you'd learn diving skills in AIT. Special Forces is a very long process. AIT then SFAS then the Qualification Course then back to an AIT for an 18-series MOS. All SF Soldiers are 18 series. Sappers have Engineer MOSs & a few are selected to go to Sapper School.