Enlisted to OCS?

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Bpeebles82
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Long story short, I am 29 and have decided to join the Army. Should have done it years ago. However, I do have a bachelors degree and aspire to be an officer asap. I cannot just join then go straight to OCS as I'm past my 29th birthday. My question is, how long would you expect me to go from E-4 to OCS? Asvab score was 85, GT was 121 if it helps.

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Honestly it matters your

Honestly it matters your recommendations from your commanders. Once in you can apply for ocs at any time but you want to get some experience first.

MSG Glenn
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Can he...

.. try for a 09S contract, SSG P? In my reply to his other post I told him what I learned from a recent OCS graduate & according to him there's a much better chance of getting a contract than trying to get selected as an existing Soldier or Prior Service - now a low priority for OCS which in my way of thinking is stupid. Some of my best officers were former NCOs.

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Hmm he could try that route!

Hmm he could try that route! But idk if it is harder for prior service to get OCS. They have really been taking in pt test score a lot lately. But either route will not hurt any. Sometimes getting an 09 contract can be difficult.

MSG Glenn
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It seems...

...that getting any contract is difficult.

Bpeebles82
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thanks

For the info. If I didnt go the ocs way, how about warrant?

MSG Glenn
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Re: Warrant Officer

The only way someone can enter the Warrant Officer program from civilian life is to go in with a Flight Warrant contract to become a helicopter pilot. Those are becoming harder & harder to get. There might be some rare instances where a highly skilled person can maybe go in directly as a Warrant Officer. I've never heard of any in the Active Duty Army but have heard of some in the Reserve years ago. In your case unless you want to be a pilot you can choose an MOS that has Warrants, serve time in that job, get promoted to the NCO ranks & apply for WOCS. Only the best of the best are selected & it depends on the need of the Army for WOs in that job. Most Combat Arms MOSs have no WOs. There might be some in Field Artillery.

Bpeebles82
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thanks

Again for the info. Found a website that showed the different wo mos's. Very helpful

Bpeebles82
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@ SSG P and @ MSG Glenn

This thought just occured to me. Lets say I've enlisted and it's been a year. On my path to becoming an officer in that time, what happens if they change the age limit to where I then exceed it? I think right now it's 35 for enlisted soldiers. Would I be stuck like Chuck if they change it to 30 and I'm 31?

MSG Glenn
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Anything can happen ...

...but I doubt if Officer accession would get that young. In case it does just finish out your enlistment & get out, collect your Veteran's benefits & enjoy civilian life.

That's one more reason to get an OCS contract. Once you're contracted you're locked in. If anything changes between signing your contract & leaving for BCT you'll still be okay.

Speaking of finishing your enlistment - you realize that when you get commissioned from the enlisted ranks your enlisted contract is closed out & you start with a new one.

Bpeebles82
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@MSG Glenn

Can I request that in my contract if im not going to ocs after bct?

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There's really...

...nothing you can get put into your contract besides what the contract comes with. I dont think the age limit will change anytime soon and I would have to look at what the rules are for prior service OCS application. Sorry I have not been as quick to respond I am in the process of moving everything and my family to Dallas, Tx. I do not think that you will get stuck as I have known a lot of people going from enlisted to OCS that were in the military for quite awhile.

Bpeebles82
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@ SSG P

Thanks for the input. No worries about the response time. I'm just going to see the recruiter today and wanted to arm myself with that information so I don't look stupid by asking an impossible question.

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Alright, so where can I view

Alright, so where can I view the age requirements for going to OCS from the enlisted side of things? I was hung up with getting medical cleared in MEPs when they changed the age limit, and I was slated for OCS in my recruiting contract. So when they changed the age limit, I already invested 6 months into the process and decided that I would enlist as a specialist (I have my BS and an Assc. of Applied Science).

Now I have been told that my age is an issue and the only way I'll get to be an officer is to do green-to-gold on track to getting a Masters. I honestly have no interest, as my G.I. Bill was waived in place of getting about $60K in student loans paid off.

So if there is a document or memo that states a different age for enlisted to officers than from civilians to officers, does anyone have a link to it? If so, I'm in like... well, I'll stay away from the EO violations. ;)

Thanks in advance.

PecatonicaJoe
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could answer a couple questions I have. I graduated from college last year with a bachelor's degree. I currently have an 09S contract.

My recruiter indicated that I would have to go to basic training and then come back to my home state and do OCS here. My paper from MEPS (one that says "CONGRATULATIONS! A SUCCESSFUL RESERVATION WAS COMPLETED FOR...) has a total training of 22 weeks and 6 days listed at Fort Benning. Specifically 9 weeks, 4 days labeled as "BASIC TRAINING" followed by 13 weeks, 2 days labeled as "TRAINING PATH".

I'm wondering if my recruiter was wrong about me having to come back to my home state for OCS? Am I correct in that it sounds like they are just going to push me through it automatically at Fort Benning?

My second question is, would it be difficult for me to move from the part time Army National Guard to the full time, active duty Army?

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@ PecatonicaJoe

Most States have their own National Guard OCS course. I think it's one weekend a month for a year(?), two weeks of annual training at the beginning & two weeks at the end - something like that. Before that you'l take regular BCT along with Enlisted Soldiers. Sometime after commissioning your unit will send you to Officer Basic Course (OBC) Did you actually sign up with the National Guard? I've also known some Army Reserve people taking the Guard OCS course. You should check with your Recruiter before too much time passes. The contract you have might be the only 09S contract available. I know their getting harder to get each month it seems. If you have any contract questions you should take it up with your Recruiter.

I don't know how it is with Officers but it's fairly hard getting into the Active Army from the Reserve Components. By the time you get your commission policy can be altogether different.