19k, 19d, or 12b..

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Badkarma
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So, I've decided to enlist in the Army as combat arms. My family has a very strong military heritage and most of those who have come before me have served in the combat arms profession. My father was a 19k, tanker back in the 80s in the 2nd ACR doing patrol work on the border of Chekloslavakia. He has inspired me as he truly developed a great love for the profession. However, I am concerned. Tankers aren't necessayist needed right now and I see myself in a position on foot. I'd like to have the opportunity to engage in firefights (I know they are horrific, and something no man should ever see) but I feel that is my duty. However, I'm just unsure where I belong. Just looking for info I guess, experience etc.. Can't seem to make a choice doing research on my own.

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MSG Glenn
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@Badkarma

Obviously, if you want to do some fighting on foot then 19D would be your choice out of the 3 you mentioned. Engineers don't really do much firefight work although your MOS is always Soldier & all Soldiers are trained & have the possibility to fight as Infantry. The Engineer MOS also offer Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) School, very hard corps. 19D can fight but they'd rather not. They're Scouts & try to do their job unnoticed although there are times they will be of course. Then they have to fight out of that dilemma.

The premier firefight on foot MOS is Infantry as I'm sure you know. That's also the MOS that offers the most specialized training - Sniper for one. They also have the best chance of going to Ranger School, Ranger Assesment & Selection Program (RASP) for entry into the 75th Ranger Regiment, Airborne School & a few more. (all Ranger candidates will get Airborne training, RASP & Ranger School automatically. Ranger School in itself is not an entry into the Ranger Regt. All of those in the 75th are required to attend Ranger School sometime within the first year in Regiment. All Soldiers regardless of MOS can attend Ranger School but Infantry has the highest quota in the training. The Ranger School also has Recon classes so you can act as a Scout. I can speak of Airborne Infantry because that's my primary MOS & also know about the 75th Ranger Regt. because my son was a Ranger with an Infantry MOS & served 5 deployments while he was in. He stayed in the Army Reserve & is serving as an Instructor. He followed me in Special Operations. I was a SEAL when I was in the Navy so he's also carrying on a family tradition.

Now comes the hard part - selection of MOS & availability of classes in that MOS. Infantry is by far the most popular but it also offers the most classes year 'round. I've known Tankers & Scouts & they all seemed happy in & proud of their MOS. I'd see a Recruiter soon. He's the only one who can give you any idea what's available & an approximate time when you'd ship to BCT or OSUT. Get the ball rolling. We're going into a period when Recruiting starts to slow down. By now most of the HS & college grads have been taken care of & Recruiters are a lot slower. The slowest time is traditionally between Thanksgiving until a few weeks into the new year.

Start preparing yourself physically. Don't overdo it at first but get at the pushups, situps & running. I always suggest that you be able to pass the PT test before going to basic. If you decide to go into a hard corps job then REALLY get into world athlete shape.

Please feel free to ask any questions you may have & by all means keep me updated on your progress. I would also like to know what your Recruiter tells you.

Thanks for your interest in the Army.

Badkarma
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Thank you for this

Thank you for this information. I've been highly considering infantry, just have been looking around at some more specialized stuff. I'm already in the process with my recruiter. We are just waiting on my medical records of a surgery to come back (we already know I have no restrictions) but just for good measure. I guess I shouldn't be too worried about seeing combat. I just want to get into the job I so happen to choose and do it well. I think I've honestly narrowed my choices down to 11b, or 19d.

MSG Glenn
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It seems ...

...that you're on your way to enlisting. Now the fun begins, LOL.

Like I told you I can only speak about Infantry with knowledge. Airborne Infantry to be exact. I also served as a Commo 1SG & that was because of my Advanced Class Amateur Radio License & a dire need of the Army for senior NCOs in a combat situation. A 2-week course to bring me up to speed on Military communications & I was all set. I also held a Photographer MOS but that didn't interest me because of the lack of advancement. All of the above were Airborne slots. I have an Associate Degree in photography & was awarded that MOS when I joined along with Infantry as my primary. Coming from the Navy with a long break in between I found doing photos of various aspects of Army life, mostly in the field, was a great way to learn about the Army. Since I came in as a SGT I figured I should be prepared to lead Soldiers & know at least a little about how they think & work. Holdng 3 MOSs was a great help to me getting promotions on the fast track. Since I was planning on doing at least 20 years total it was a help. I did 27 - 6 Navy, 21 Army. My only regret was not getting up to SGM, E9. I finished my career as Acting SGM but didn't have enough years left to get permanently promoted. It didn't hurt one little bit that I got to meet many Officers & NCOs when I took the required (at the time) full-length photos in dress uniform they needed for promotion. I always generated a 1st class product, LOL. When I got to an Infantry unit I knew most of them & was greeted warmly, LOL. If I didn't take their promotion shots I took pics of thier units in action. They knew I didn't mind getting down & dirty to meet my mission & go out of my way to make them look good, LOL.

I feel Infantry & Cav Scout have many similarities but there are more opportunities for specialized advanced training as an 11B/C. Infantry also usually has more slots available in those specialty schools. If none of those interest you then it's whatever comes first for shipping if you're in a hurry to get in. If an enlistment bonus is available for one or the other then that in itself might be an incentive. Your Recruiter would be the best source of info. While you're waiting to leave for BCT or OSUT he'll help you with your PT.